Here are some links to get you started on some context for Minoans and Mycenaeans.
Here are a few more images.
And here's a 25-second video of what the ruins look like on Crete.
Here's a map that shows the Peloponnesus. Mycenae is a city on the Peloponnesus.
What else can folks find about these civilizations?
And for those interested in military conquests, consider these Plastic Hittite Soldiers.
Sunday, September 23, 2007
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Here is a link to a website on most of the civilizations including the Hittites. http://www.guitarsite.com/history14.htm
http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/hittites.htm
i found this website on ChaCha.com, It explains the Hittites pretty good and has good pictures
http://flickr.com/search/?q=Hittites this has many pictures of the hittites artifacts and the atmosphere where they lived
http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/MESO/HITTITES.HTM
I'm just fantastic... haha just kidding. It's Washington State U, so it's legit... yeah, good background and such.
Here's a website on Hittite and the roles of men and women. This answered a few of my questions:
http://www.ancientworlds.net/aw/NewsStory/258581
Also, here's some other Hittite articles:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hittites
http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/MESO/HITTITES.HTM
Here is a website for Hamurabi's Code. It is the first full set of written laws we have. The civilization is modern day Iraq http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/MESO/CODE.HTM
Mycenaean & Minoan Links
http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/MINOA/MYCENAE.HTM
http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/MINOA/MINOANS.HTM
A you-tube video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi0VVY_I-hw
When you folks post links, please explain in a sentence or two what the link leads to and what information we can find there. Try to provide more *specifics* than "good background and such"
Also, please look at the previous posts before you post. Two people in a row mentioned http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/MESO/HITTITES.HTM
I am a big dog person, and the word Anatolian rang a bell. I looked it up on the AKC (American Kennel Club) website and there is a dog (from turkey) that is called the Anatolian shepherd. Here is a link
http://www.akc.org/breeds/anatolian_shepherd_dog/
While I was reading about Cretan civilization, I noticed what seemed like an interesting connection. Earlier in the textbook, it mentioned that the bull had religious significance to the citizens of Harappa and the Indus Valley. Also, it mentioned one of the few myths we know from that civilization included a woman being punished after laying with a wild bull.
I remembered that while I was reading about Crete because Crete instantly made me think of the popular myth of the Minotaur, or Minos's bull. In that myth, King Minos of Crete recieves a white bull and is told to sacrifice it. He refuses, so the gods put a curse on his wife Pasiphae, who falls in love with the bull. She lays with it and has a child that is half bull half man (the Minotaur) which Minos then keeps in a labyrinth in his palace and feeds it humans every seven years. Pasiphae, as punishment for unfaithfulness to her husband, is put under a curse of eternal suffering.
These myths seemed really similar, which surprised me. Cretan civilization rose after Indus had already fallen, so I doubt the two had any contact. Is this just a coincidence? I dont know but it seemed realy interesting to me.
In the book it says that “there may have been a political takeover”. “In the second half of the second millennium BCE, the language of Mycenae replaced that of Crete in official Cretan records, suggesting a change in political mastery.” “The archives began to be written in an early form of Greek”. The connection between Crete and Greece (as well as a pictures of a sun chariot on Pg. 103) made me think of a chariot that I had seen in the Metropolitan Museum of Art about a month ago. It’s a chariot with scenes from the Greek hero Achilles from Etruscan, Archaic, 2nd quarter of the 6th century B.C. It is made out of bronze inlaid with ivory. I thought possibly that the fact that the chariot was Greek and that it was made out of bronze would indicate something about Greek culture, or perhaps Mycenae culture, replacing Crete. Here's a link to the site with a picture: http://www.metmuseum.org/special/greek_roman/viewone.asp?item=26
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/60866
This is a picture i found very interesting. It is of a fountain in Crete
The textbook explains the two despotic methods to control a capricous food supply in Crete. The book says, "organized agriculture, embracing, as in Hatti, both farming and herding, and state-regulated trade. The function of the palace as storehouse was a vital part of how the system worked. The greatest complex on the island, Knossos, covers more than 40,000 square feet.... Knossos were genuine palace." This link goes to a site plan of Knossos http://www.greeceathensaegeaninfo.com/a-greece-travel/a-maps/a-archeological-sites-greece-map-knossos-crete.jpg
and this link shows a sketch of what it probably looked like.
http://gocsm.net/sevas/esl/classnotes/img/palace.jpg
One of the most important things was in the last rebuilding of the Knossos,where a changed occurred to writing in an early form of Greek.
Pg 100-104 in text- Emma Frank's Annotations/Explorations!
Monday, September 24, 2007
8:35 PM
Pg. 100
Hittite kingdom suffered from other weaknesses…transition to agriculture….made Hittites vulnerable to famine and disease. (VERY SIMILAR TO JARED DIAMOND ARTICLE)
Egypt mentioned as a brotherly city to Hittite- Was just as powerful but not noted for its accomplishment as much as Egypt
A timeline in the book shows some of the important things that happened in Hatti. 1300BCE a plague struck. Did a similar event strike Egypt? If so, how did they survive it?
Chariots
When the kingdom just disappeared, why weren't there documents writing it down or recording it?
All empires, as Mr. Goldberg mentioned in class….a book Jared Diamond wrote about he theory on all rising empires
http://us.penguingroup.com/nf/Book/BookDisplay/0,,0_9780670033379,00.html
And here he talks about his book and what his theories have to do with the United States and how we live….(maybe I'm wrong) he talks about involvement overseas too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9FBauqIfq4
I thought it was kind of interesting but I don’t completely understand it…..
Pg.101
Cretan
Perhaps the harsh conditions in an environment only makes the society living in it stronger…
The Labyrinth
Trade- much on water- skilled boatmanship
Elites- lived in luxury- why are elites portrayed differently in different societies?
Pg 102.
Much warfare- probably because these places were so close together and were expanding at the same time. But what made some of the cities stronger than the others? What cities survived/dominated and why?
Mycenean
Pg 104.
Interesting how these places are in competition with each other yet support each other by trading
Why do these civilizations engage in war if they have so many social connection through trade?
Great question at the end there by Emma -- why DO civilizations go to war? Is war part of human nature?
I found this wikipedia site about the Battle of Kadesh(Qadesh) between the Egyptians and the Hittites. I thought it was weird that they fought and still held a close relationship.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kadesh
I also thought it was really cool that the Hittites beat the Egyptians who were known to be very powerful.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hittites
http://home.cfl.rr.com/crossland/AncientCivilizations/Middle_East_Civilizations/Hittites/hittites.html
I hope those are helpful to someone. they were to me.
This link has a part that has all of the kings of Hittites and the year(s) they ruled
http://www.allaboutturkey.com/hitit.htm
sorry i posted the links without telling why. but mainly because 1) they give good background informatin such as who they are, what they did, etc. 2) they helped me and hopefully others to understand one of my main questions: what were the roles of the women in the Hittites? and 3) they gave other good information that we could use to study.
Here is a good link i found and it explains the history of the Hittites including their cities, kings,Gods, art and contributions to civilization, etc.
http://history-world.org/hittites.htm
http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/MESO/HITTITES.HTM
heres a good website on how the hittites lived (religion, goverment ect)
http://www.asor.org/HITTITE/HittiteHP.html
this link, also has a kings list, but not only that, it has a map of the Hittite kingdom and gives a good description of the hittites
this has nothing to do with Minoans and Mycenaeans, but i didn't know where else to post this. is Aung San Suu Kyi still alive, and if so how old is she. and also. if she is such an honored person, why wouldn't she be taken off house arrest, and what'd do to be put on house arrest.
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